Hello bookish friends. My posting has suffered from a disheartening lack of motivation. Let's hope this is a reboot by writing about what I am reading.
This month I have tackled a few from my classics club list and also a book for the Women in Translation event. For now I want to record the two classics about teachers with many similarities.
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark and To Sir, With Love by E.R. Braithwaite.
Both were made into movies, both are short and well written, both teachers employ unconventional teaching practices and are influencial with the students.
The Prime of Miss Brodie is set at a girls school in Edinburgh. Miss Brodie teaches the junior level at a private school, girls aged 10-12 who are quite impressionable.
We may have had teachers in our lives who we looked up to and in turn have influenced us. Miss Brodie was an impressive teacher but not a good one, in my humble opinion. She set up her own clique of young ladies who were easily affected, molding them to her values rather than teaching them critical thinking skills or encouraging their own opinions. She treated these select young girls as confidantes rather than keeping the professional boundaries needed in a teacher-student relationship.
Miss Brodie inappropriately shared stories about her love life from an earlier time in her life, belittled one of her Brodie set girl, Mary MacGregor, yet keeping her within the group because she neeeded that scapegoat. This made the other girls, the Brodie girls, keep poor Mary at arm's length as they didn't want to stand out and found wanting.
Miss Jean Brodie - a supporter and admirer of Hitler and Mussolini, a strong willed teacher living some of her sexual dreams by sharing the meanderings of her romantic mind (in her prime or not) through the children. As she is in a custodial position of trust I found that most inappropriate. She unwittingly (or not) created her own little Fascist following with her set of girls.
Our main character here is actually the narrator, not Miss Brodie as one would think from the title. Keep an eye on young Sandy as she experiences and relates all of the "teachings" in this book. She ends up betrayed by a student yet she kept a relationship with her "Brodie set" into their adult lives as they stayed in touch.
Why would they stay in touch, was my question? 3 stars from me on this one and that is being rounded up.
Next is To Sir, With Love. This one is set in a tough London school. His students are a challenge and his perserverance pays off.
Once out of the service he was told he was very well qualified for professional positions in his field. While he was a good candidate it was his race that figured into the decision making. Being black made him nearly unemployable and he became very bitter. It was suggested he apply to Greenslade school in a rougher poorer part of London as they needed teachers desperately. Braithwaite needed to live, to eat and pay a rent so he accepted this position teaching seniors. At first, it was just a job.
As an extraordinarily intelligent and well dressed man he stood out at this school, especially as he was the first black teacher there. The children were a nightmare, always pushing the limits, using poor language, having zero expectation of him staying.
The turning point came when he'd had it with their behavior and disrespect and announced some rules for the class. He would be addressed as Mr. Braithwaite or Sir. In turn he would address the young ladies as Miss and expect the boys to do the same. The boys were treated to respect as well and this, among other reasonable rules, changed the young adults for the better. The children wrote weekly reports about what they learned, allowing them to air any grievences they may have without fear of reprisal.
"Nonetheless, one thing clearly emerged: they were very pleased to be treated like grown-ups, to be talked to like equals. Fernman wrote: “He speaks to us as if we understand all the words he uses, and most of us try to look as if we do.” I smiled at this; they were already showing their stuff."
This modification of teaching tactics changed the students' interest regarding everything from active classroom discussions/interactions, exposure to cultural events by going to museums and concerts on field trips and even their hygiene. They were treated with a respect never known before and in turn, became respectful of others. Mr. Braithwaite also experienced growth in character after negotiating the social norms and prejudices he can not change. He becomes empathetic toward his charges and it is reciprocated.
I liked this book very much as it was well written and had my complete attention. Afterwards I sought out more of his books and have those to look forward to in the future. 4.5 Stars


I think Miss Brodie would make me very uncomfortable. Boundaries are important! Especially between children and adults. I've never read To Sir with Love but it was one of my grandmother's absolute favorites. She also really loved the movie. I should try them both.
ReplyDeleteKatherine, I liked To Sir, With Love so much. I ended up buyng two more of Braithwaite's books for Kindle. That one ended too fast for me, I wanted more of the story yet it ended where it needed to with the seniors' graduating.
DeleteNow I may want to see the movie. I would try annnother of Muriel Sparks books in the future but this one wasn't my cup of tea.
Great comparison of two teacher-focused books. I am 100% aligned with you, although I don't think there was anything unwitting about the fascist-esque group of girls that Jean Brodie fashioned.
ReplyDeleteI really loved To Sir, With Love. Very inspiring.
Have you ever read Goodbye, Mr. Chips--another wonderful teacher-focused story.
Jane, I have not read Mr. Chips. Thank you for the suggestion and I will add that to my list. Braithwaite is/was a good author. I read he lived to be 104 years!
DeleteI've seen both movies but haven't read either book. The comparison is interesting -- thanks!
ReplyDeleteJoy, Now I may want to watch the movies as well.
DeleteSuch an interesting comparison of these two books. I was not a big fan of Miss Jean Brodie and don't think I've read To Sir , With Love. Think I'll add that one to my list. It's good to see a post from you!
ReplyDeleteJoAnn, thanks so much. I think I just needed a break and some inspiration: -)
DeleteI would recommend To Sir, With Love. I was a bit bored by Jean Brodie though. Some folks seemed to like it and had in depth reviews.
I like your pairing of these two books. As a retired teacher, I have always been fascinated with books about teachers and education. There's a type of force that all teachers have, a kind of magic, and that can lead students toward a path the teachers promote, be it in a positive direction or a less positive one. I've read Brodie but not Sir, and it sounds like I should put Sir on my list.
ReplyDeleteDeb, it was interesting to read the comparison between them. Love Sir, not so much Jean Brodie. Jane sggested I try Goodbye, Mr. Chips so I am laready making note of that for my next Classics list.
DeleteWhat you said, about some teachers making an impression is so true. I can still vividly recall several of my teachers who were encouraging.
Interesting comparison of the two books and the teacher characters. I might end up skipping the Miss Brodie novel ... which sounds like the teacher crossed the line with her students. I'm impressed the teacher in the 2nd book was able to get a better control of the class with his respect strategy. It seems he did well and got over his various hurdles against him ... which makes for good reading.
ReplyDeleteSusan, I think you'd like To Sir book. With Jean Brodie the word prime kept getting interjected to the point that I personally found it annoying.
DeleteGood for you to read and compare these two books. I've not read either, but I have no desire to give Miss Jean Brodie a try. Maybe To Sir With Love. Glad you are back in the blogging world. We just got back from a camping trip, and I'm finally getting caught up with my favorite blogs!
ReplyDeleteHi Les, glad you are back after the initial trip in your new rig. Can;t wait to see photos and hear about it. Yeah, skip Brodie but try Sir :-)
DeleteSuch a thoughtful comparison. I’ve not felt the need to read The Prime of MissJean Brodie. I have read To Sir, With Love but a long time ago when I was at university studying teaching. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
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